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Noshing With Robert Crane – October 20, 2022

Author, Crane: Sex, Celebrity, and My Father's Unsolved Murder

This week on Ira's Everything Bagel Podcast, host Ira Sternberg engages in a captivating conversation with Robert Crane, a prolific author known for his deep dives into the worlds of sex, celebrity, and the tragic unsolved murder of his father, Bob Crane. With a career spanning decades and a bibliography that includes ten books, Robert Crane brings a wealth of experience and insight into the literary world. In this episode, Crane discusses his journey as a writer, his decision to focus on Jack Nicholson in his first book, and the emotional complexities of writing about his father’s life and untimely death.

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The Decision to Pursue Writing

Robert Crane begins by explaining why he chose a life of writing, despite growing up in the shadow of his famous father, Bob Crane—a radio and television star best known for his role in Hogan’s Heroes. Born in Stamford, Connecticut, and later moving to Los Angeles in the 1950s, Crane was immersed in the world of show business from an early age. However, instead of following in his father’s footsteps, he pursued a different path, studying film at USC and eventually turning to writing as his primary creative outlet. Crane discusses how writing allows him to be the "ruler of his universe," giving him control over the narrative in a way that acting or other forms of entertainment could not.

Choosing Jack Nicholson for His First Book

One of the most intriguing aspects of Robert Crane’s career is his decision to feature Jack Nicholson in his first book, Jack Nicholson: Face to Face (later reissued as Jack Nicholson: The Early Years). Crane talks about what drew him to Nicholson as a subject—his enigmatic personality, his rise to stardom, and his influence on American cinema. As a young writer, Crane was fascinated by Nicholson’s ability to navigate the often tumultuous waters of Hollywood while maintaining his unique identity. This book marked the beginning of Crane’s long and successful career as an author, setting the stage for his later works.

Writing About His Father: A Personal Journey

In this episode, Robert Crane also delves into the deeply personal and challenging process of writing Crane: Sex, Celebrity, and My Father's Unsolved Murder. Co-written with frequent collaborator Christopher Fryer, this book is more than just a biography—it’s a reflection on Crane’s own life and the impact of his father’s murder on his family. Crane explains that this was the one book where he refused to settle for less, as the story was not just about his father, but also about himself, his mother, stepfather, and two sisters. The book chronicles the turbulent years of Bob Crane’s infidelities, his parents’ divorce, and the unresolved trauma of his father’s murder.

Balancing the Internal and External Life

One of the key themes in Robert Crane’s discussion is the balance between the internal and external life. As a writer, Crane has had to navigate the challenges of being deeply introspective while also engaging with the world around him. He shares how writing serves as a tool for processing emotions and experiences, allowing him to make sense of the complexities of his life. This balance is particularly evident in his work on Crane: Sex, Celebrity, and My Father's Unsolved Murder, where the personal and professional aspects of his life intersect in powerful ways.

From Freelancing to Playboy and Beyond

Robert Crane’s career began with freelancing for magazines and newspapers, which eventually led to his first book on Jack Nicholson. His success with this project opened the door to a twenty-year stint at Playboy Magazine, where he continued to hone his craft and expand his portfolio. During his time at Playboy, Crane developed a reputation for his insightful and often provocative writing, tackling subjects that ranged from Hollywood’s elite to the broader cultural shifts of the time. This experience not only shaped him as a writer but also deepened his understanding of the intersection between celebrity and society.

Crane’s Collaboration with Christopher Fryer

A significant portion of Robert Crane’s literary output has been in collaboration with Christopher Fryer. Together, they have authored several books, including those on Jack Nicholson and Bruce Dern. Crane discusses how this partnership has been instrumental in his success, with Fryer providing complementary skills and perspectives that enhance their work. The two share a deep commitment to storytelling, often focusing on the darker, more complex aspects of their subjects’ lives.

Navigating Personal Tragedy: The Losses of Kari and John Candy

In Crane: Sex, Celebrity, and My Father's Unsolved Murder, Robert Crane also explores the personal tragedies that have shaped his life, including the deaths of his first wife, Kari, and his close friend, actor John Candy. These losses, compounded by the unresolved trauma of his father’s murder, have profoundly influenced Crane’s writing. He shares how these experiences have informed his understanding of grief and loss, and how they have driven him to explore these themes in his work.

A Journey Through American Social Fabric

Beyond his personal story, Crane: Sex, Celebrity, and My Father's Unsolved Murder offers a broader commentary on the American social fabric, from the days of the Vietnam War through the cultural upheavals of the 1960s and 70s. Robert Crane discusses how his book reflects the changing landscape of American society, particularly in relation to issues of celebrity, media, and personal identity. Through his narrative, Crane provides a unique lens on the cultural shifts that have defined the past few decades.

Crane’s Legacy as a Writer

As the episode concludes, Robert Crane reflects on his legacy as a writer. With ten books to his name, Crane has established himself as a significant voice in the world of literary non-fiction. His work continues to resonate with readers, offering a blend of personal insight, cultural commentary, and sharp wit. Whether exploring the life of a Hollywood icon like Jack Nicholson or delving into the complexities of his own family’s story, Robert Crane remains committed to telling stories that matter.

Robert Crane Podcast Episode Conclusion

This episode of Ira's Everything Bagel Podcast offers a deep and engaging exploration of the life and work of Robert Crane. From his early days as a film student at USC to his current status as a respected author, Crane’s journey is one of resilience, creativity, and a relentless pursuit of truth. His latest book, Crane: Sex, Celebrity, and My Father's Unsolved Murder, stands as a testament to his ability to navigate the complexities of both his personal and professional life with grace and insight.

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FAQs About Author Robert Crane

Who is Robert Crane?

Robert Crane is an author and the son of Bob Crane, the star of Hogan's Heroes. He has written several books, including a memoir titled Crane: Sex, Celebrity, and My Father's Unsolved Murder, which explores his life growing up in a show business family and dealing with his father's tragic death.

Who is Bob Crane?

Bob Crane was an American actor best known for his role as Colonel Hogan in the television series Hogan's Heroes. He was a popular radio host before transitioning to television and film acting.

How did Bob Crane die?

Bob Crane was murdered in 1978 in Scottsdale, Arizona. His death remains officially unsolved, although there were suspects and ongoing investigations over the years.

How old was Bob Crane?

Bob Crane was 49 years old at the time of his death in 1978.

How many books does Robert Crane have?

Robert Crane has written or co-written ten books, including biographies and memoirs that often explore the complexities of celebrity life.

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Ira Sternberg: Welcome to Ira's Everything Bagel, where I talk with intriguing people about everything—their passions, pursuits, and points of view. My guest today is Robert Crane, a prolific writer who has written about personal pain in Crane: Sex, Celebrity, and My Father's Unsolved Murder, which covers the 1978 homicide of Hogan's Heroes star Bob Crane. He’s also the co-author of nine other books covering subjects like Jack Nicholson, Bruce Dern, Tom Mankiewicz, SCTV, Baby Boomers, bartenders, and O.J. Simpson. Robert was also a 20-year contributor to Playboy magazine and co-writer of the TV movie Hostage for a Day, which was directed by John Candy. His current work is featured in a new collection of short stories, Beyond Where the Buses Run: Stories, available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and all the usual places. You can find out more about Robert Crane on his Facebook page. Robert, welcome to the show.
Robert Crane: Great to be here, Ira.
Ira: Tell me, why did you decide on a life of writing?
Robert: Well, I knew because of my father, who I admired in a professional way, that I didn’t have the chops to be an actor. It was beyond me. I admired how he could jump into any situation and just go with it, and I thought, well, I’m not going to do that. But I’ve always been intrigued with the life of a writer. Growing up, there were a lot of books, magazines, and newspapers at our house because my dad was on the radio and needed the daily input. I was fascinated by how one captures a story, how they convey it to others. Joan Didion once said she was so small, so tiny a person, and didn’t speak much—she observed all the time. I liked that approach. Christopher Isherwood also had a line about being a camera, which intrigued me. I couldn’t talk faster or louder than my dad, so I ended up observing more. That led me to writing. I had great creative writing teachers in high school and college, including a guy named Bill Jones, who just turned everyone on to the idea of creative writing back in the ’60s. Eventually, I started mailing out ideas—back in the days of mail, not email!
Ira: Did you use Writer’s Market to send things out?
Robert: Absolutely, I had that big ol’ fat Writer’s Market book! I went through it and sent letters out. Things grew from there. You get your first freelance gig, and you’re looking at the check, then at your name in the magazine, and it feels great—until you look at your bank account and wonder if you made a mistake.
Ira: (Laughs) How am I going to pay rent this month?
Robert: Exactly.
Ira: Was your father’s book your first big project?
Robert: No, going way back to college, I went to USC under the guise of studying film. This was after George Lucas had passed through, and some other big names. My long-time co-writer, Chris Fryer, and I had a class where we were talking about heroes, and we just fell in love with Jack Nicholson. Easy Rider and Five Easy Pieces had just come out when we were in college, and we thought, since Marlon Brando, this guy is the most honest presence on film. So, long story short, through devious means, we got his home phone number and called him up. He answered, and we pitched him as two film students doing a paper on present-day film heroes, and he agreed to meet us. We went to his house up on Mulholland, where we interviewed him for about three or four hours. We were so elated by the experience that we eventually turned it into a book. We interviewed about 14 or 15 people who had worked with him up until Chinatown, where we cut off the narrative. That became our first big project.
Ira: You realize there’s a technical cinematic term for what you and Chris did—it’s called chutzpah. You called Jack Nicholson and got an interview. That wouldn’t happen today.
Robert: Yeah, not long after that, we asked him if he’d mind if we turned it into a book. He didn’t think he’d ever hear from us again, but we ended up selling the book. It wasn’t for much money, but it was something. We were so excited that once the book came out, we went back to his house and gave him a copy. He found a mistake within 30 seconds, but that’s how it goes.
Ira: (Laughs) That does happen. Now, you co-wrote that book with Chris, as well as several others. What’s the process for co-writing?
Robert: Well, it varies by project. For example, with the book about Bruce Dern, we spent about 80 hours taping interviews with him. The process involved a lot of back-and-forth, cutting and pasting, and editing. With the Crane book, Chris acted as a sort of director, pushing for details and challenging me to think about things I hadn’t in years. It was a pain at times, but it made the book better. We had hours of tape to transcribe and then went through an intense editing process.
Ira: You mentioned taping—did you tape your interview with Nicholson too?
Robert: Yes, but the quality of those tapes is so bad now, I can hardly play them. I really should have them digitized.
Ira: You should! Now, you’ve been a prolific writer, and your current project is a collection of short stories. Is it easier to write now than it was 20 or 30 years ago?
Robert: That’s a great question. I’m always looking for new angles, and that’s what keeps me going. The short stories were exciting because they were fiction, which was a departure for me. I took an old story I’d written 40 years ago and updated it. It was fun to trim and refine it, making it into something new. The process is still exciting, and I find that I’m thinking of better words and descriptions now than I did years ago.
Ira: How do you balance your internal world of writing with your external world?
Robert: It’s about being in the moment. I enjoy interacting with people, observing them, and absorbing details. But when I’m writing, I’m in control of my universe, no matter how small it is. It’s a sanctuary from the craziness of the outside world.
Ira: That’s a great way to leave it. My guest has been Robert Crane, author of 10 books including Crane: Sex, Celebrity, and My Father’s Unsolved Murder, and his current work is featured in Beyond Where the Buses Run: Stories. The book is available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and all the usual places. You can find out more about Robert Crane on his Facebook page. Robert, thanks for being on the show.
Robert: Thanks, Ira. Pleasure.
Ira: Join us every Thursday for a new episode of Ira's Everything Bagel.

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