How do we balance strong leadership with constitutional restraint—and what happens when that balance begins to shift?
This week on “Ira’s Everything Bagel,” I talk with John Barry, author of "Power & Peril: Writings about the Fate of the American Republic," about one of the most enduring challenges facing American democracy: power is always going to be there, but so is the peril when that power isn’t properly restrained.
John explains why he wrote "Power & Peril "and draws on history, national security, leadership and the American political experience to examine what happens when the boundaries of power are tested.
We discuss lessons for today’s leaders, why we need to learn from history, and the importance of putting pressure on allies without belittling them. John points to Desert Storm as a model for working with allies, including the importance of maintaining strong rela-tionships within alliances such as NATO.
We also revisit Benjamin Franklin’s famous response when asked after the Constitutional Convention whether the new nation had a monarchy or a republic: “A republic, if you can keep it.”
For John, the Constitution is essentially a “document of caution”—a framework designed to recognize the presence of power while placing limits on how that power can be exercised.
We explore whether America is currently testing those constitutional boundaries, the challenges posed by increasingly autocratic regimes, and why curiosity and an informed citizenry matter. John also discusses what he calls “normalizing deviance”—the danger of gradually accepting behavior that once would have seemed unacceptable.
It’s a wide-ranging conversation about American history, constitutional government, leadership, national security, alliances and the future of the American republic.
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